Re: hedonism


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Posted by Perfume on November 08, 1996 at 01:30:25:
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In Reply to: Re: hedonism posted by trip meter on November 03, 1996 at 21:45:11:

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: s because all moral/ethical philosophies have held happiness as their end, although extrinsic happiness has almost always taken value above intrinsic happiness( it's much more dignified). psychological hedonism has been the motivating force for human actions to the point where it is generally accepted as logical to seek happiness and avoid pain. go pleasure(base or epicurean!!!!!!!!!!!!!

question is that intrinsic happiness is bound to relate to this expression that is not translatable into the English language, called 'jouissance' in the French. And this is not 'joy' as we understand it in English, but the pleasure or joy of the pain. that is that there is pain in 'intrinsic happiness' and this pain is not dignified because it has an 'autistic' quality to it... That is that the place from where we may enjoy pain is the very subjective... and this is 'beyond the pleasure principle'... if we want to call on Freud himself.



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